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    September 17, 2012
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tipping point, sean. that's the moment, and nobody should make a mistake about that. >> so is america. >> so is america, that's right. >> it's great to see you. great to meet your family, as well. >> thank you. >> that's all the time we have left this evening. thanks for being with us. let not your heart be troubled. greta is next. see you tomorrow night. >> this is a fox news alert. a jihaddist in egypt authorizing the killings of anyone, yes, anyone involved in make an anti-muslim youtube film. this has spread to 27 nations. in lebanon violent riot and breakouts as protesters cheer, america, you are the great satan. and in sierra a rebel group hits the streets, torching american flags. and they chant death to america as they burn american flags and they don't stop there. they are burning pictures of president obama. and new fierce about the hate nor america. it is contagious.
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but is it spontaneous? the ambassador to the united states, susan rice says the attacks were. she claims the murders of four americans, including our ambassador, are a spontaneous reaction to the youtube video but libyan's president says she's wrong, he insists they are premeditated. this worldwide danger is far from over. >> there have been protests around the world over the last several days. why is it the u.s. seem so impotent? >> what sparked the recent violence was the airing on the internet of a very hate full, very offensive video. >> for the united states government to say that it was simply a spontaneous act, flies in the face of the facts. >> the way that the attacks took place, i have serious questions. it seems to be a military style, coordinated. >> this leaves us with no doubt that this was preplanned, predetermined. >> it seems to me that it is
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well beyond coincidence that all of this happened in connection with september 11th. >> people focus on the spark, the spark of reprehensible and irresponsible film is a spark, but it doesn't explain anything. >> it's approximately a reaction to this video and it's a hate full video. >> they are destroying the american economy. foreign policy is an embarrassment. we weren't prepared for attacks on our embassies on 9/11, blaming it on a youtube video. >> it was planned definitely. it was planned by foreigners, by people who entered the country a few months ago. and they were planning this criminal act since their arrival. >> these protests that are sweeping is not because people are watching this movie, but are hearing about it. >> it could not be spontaneous. >> human rights against the
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rights of women, they are against freedom of religion, they are against freedom of speech and freedom of expression. they are against all the things that we value. >> president obama needs to get his priorities straight. what he needs to do is cancel his interview with david letterman, cancel his meeting with beyoncé, cancel his meeting with jay-z, and instead agree to meet with the prime minister of israel, benjamin netanyahu. >> the effect of it has to reflect, i think, a rejection of the foreign policy of the administration. >> the glaring incompetence for anybody wanting to spend more than five minutes looking, the path takes you right to the white house. >> stephen hadley, national security advisor and george w. bush is here to go on the record. the murders in libya, spontaneous or premeditated? >> probably some of both. i think one of the things that's clear is that it was an
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opportunity and it was an opportunity taken advantage of by extremist groups to demonstrate against the united states and to do more than just demonstrate against the united states because they are anti-american, but also it was an opportunity to put pressure on some more moderate governments in terms of their spectrum, at which they are not a part. to put pressure on those governments to force them to move more against the republicans united states, and to undermine those governments because they know they are cooperating with the united states because united states is important for them to achieve a better life for their people. the longer this goes, the more we find out about it, the better the chance that at least some of these instances al-qaeda was active as well. i don't know that. my hunch is, when people show up to demonstrations with anti-tank -- with rpgs, this is not a spontaneous uprising, this is some people who were
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taking advantage of an opportunity to kill americans. >> over the past three or four days, you know, while -- i don't think they have been buried, there's an autopsy going on, but the obsession is whether it was provoked or not. the administration is out there saying it is provoked by the video. what is the reason that they are -- that they are fixated on that? >> i don't know. i think provoked, i think pretext provided an opportunity. it's clearly been taken advantage of by a lot of faxes faxes -- facsions, and it's been taken advantage of to put pressure on governments to separate themselves from the united states. that's the agenda. >> the bottom line is we have hostile situation necessary a number of countries, they are burning our flag, this is not a good situation, and yet they are fixated on whether it's the
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video or not. >> i can't explain it. and i also think we need to step back and say it is a very serious situation in itself. but it is part of a broader situation in the region, which i think is extremely serious, and it starts in syria, which is increasingly become a forum for a sectarian war. it is to destabilize libya, iraq, jordan and even turkey, and runs the risk of sectarian warfare that engulfs the middle east. it is urgent, it is serious, and the administration does not seem to have a policy that is commensurate with the seriousness of the problem and the repetitive events. and iran continues to move toward a nuclear weapon, and we seem to spend more time putting pressure on israel not to strike iran than figuring out what he
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with are going to do about iran. think i it's a troubling time. it's a middle east that's in meltdown and our policies seem to be in some sense frozen. the administration talks about how they have more time. i think we are running out of time, and i'm worried about it. >> how do we unwind ourselves out of this situation? no matter why it happened, we now have this situation and it is a crisis. what do we do? >> one of the things we don't do, we don't pull out. because these people who are demonstrating against us, that's exactly what they want to do. they want us to pull out and clear the space for their more radical agenda. i think one of the things we need to do, we need to be more engaged, we need to help those governments that are legitimately trying to bring political and economic reform to their people and try to help them succeed and deal with some of the frustration that they have. and then we need to deal more
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aggressively with this deteriorating situation in syria. and again with the clock that is ticking in iran. so i think what we don't do is withdraw. what we do need to engage with some imaginative and more ambitious policies because we have a lot at stake here. we have a lot at interest here and we need to be active in protecting those interests. >> egypt is very important to israel and the middle east. you have a situation where the president this weekend received president besheer of sudan. it doesn't look like he's trying to put the lid on problems if he's meeting with a fellow muslim brotherhood president who is under indictment for genocide and he should have him arrested and turned over to the icc. >> besheer is a bad guy and he can't excuse his meeting with him.
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i wasn't a fan of him going to iran but when the president of egypt went to iran he denounced their policy on syria and that's a good thing. he's obviously trying to find his way. this is a problematic government, but it is the government that the egyptian people elected. i think, therefore, we have no alternative but to work with that government. but not in an unconscious natural way. i think what we need to do is say we are prepared to work with these governments, even muslim brotherhood-led governments, as long as they are prepared to bring their country to economic and political reform and establish exclusive political systems where everyone is able to participate, individuals rights are respected. if that is the future, we think is the future their people want, if that's the future they are bringing to their people, we are prepared to cooperate in that. but we ought to be clear that's the kind of middle east we think is best for us, and also best for the people in the middle east. >> thanks, steve.
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always a very dangerous situation. thank you. anti-american violence is exploding overseas and it's spreading into asia. they are burning flags and shouting we will destroy america. anti-american protests is in 27 countries, libya, tenisha, nigeria, and moving to yemen, israel, lebanon, the west bank, jordan, syria, turkey, kuwait, the united arab emirates, and it's continuing to iran, afghanistan, pakistan, india, and even radical muslim groups in the united kingdom and australia have hit the streets. a state department official is here to go on the record. and you covered this region, right? >> i did. thank you, greta. >> your thoughts tonight? >> i think steve is right when
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he talks about the importance of looking at the overall policy here. you know, my sense of what happened in libya, i watched ambassador rice yesterday say with 100% fortitude that this was all because of the movie and i found that to be preposterous. at a minimum you have to say we don't know yet, we don't know exactly what the spark was, but what we do know points pretty clearly to al-qaeda involvement into preplanning here. some reports had us at a four-hour fire fight, rpgs, and that didn't all happen because of the movie. >> it's distressing. we took on kyra in june of 2009 when the president gave his speech talking about a new beginning. obviously this has now imploded all around us in the sense that americans, american employees in these embassies are not safe.
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we've had four murders. >> right. and i think that speech in cairo had a lot of language in it that helps you understand part of the problem here. what we are seeing is a clear failure of obama administration policy in the middle east. but this is a president who spent many, many speeches, especially throughout the course of 2009, apologizing for america. he did it in that speech in cairo. he said after 9/11 we abandoned our ideals. he went on to foreign soil and slandered the people running the government then and the men when and women who kept us safe of a 9/11. but the notion somehow that american safe is provocative, and i think when you look at the message that we've sent across the middle east, this notion that we are pulling out, this notion that our enemies need to the fear us, the iranians make steady progress toward nuclear weapon and this administration is unwilling or unable to stop them.
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we are retreating and you see what happens when america is not in a position of strength. >> but we couldn't stay in those places forever. the two countries we went into, afghanistan and iraq, and we pull out, they apparently didn't want us there. there's an enormous amount of violence in both places as we pull out. >> i think you have to differentiate. in iraq when president bush left office, we left a situation that this president could have built on to have the kind of secure and staple environment that, frankly, we anticipated. the war was ending and president obama decided not to push too hard to negotiate any kind of a stay-behind agreement. and afghanistan, a completely different situation where the president from the very beginning started announcing a timetable for withdrawal. he said we will surge but no two complete fighting seasons. you don't have to be a brain
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surgeon here to understand that when you tell the enemy, we are going to surge but we are out of there by this date certain, the enemy will sit back and wait. in a situation that is as dangerous as those two countries are, for our allies to feel they don't have a strong partner, it would be difficult for them to stand up with us. i would say what is happening in iraq and afghanistan and what is happening across the region is in many ways as a result of this administration's policies. >> i'm going to ask you the same question i asked steve, what do we do now? if you were president, what would you do? >> i would say, number one, we are going to absolutely bring just test for the deaths of those four americans and it's going to be swift and it's going to be severe. number two, i would cancel lone forgiveness for the egyptian government. i would put it on hold right now. i think it's important for us to work particularly with the egyptian military, but for the president of egypt to have stood by and watch our embassy be overrun, the flag being burned.
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>> and he's chumming around with the president of sudan this weekend, and most countries are obliged to turn him over with the indictment. he's slaughtered thousands. >> the military assistance ought to be part of a longer and larger discussion. the lone forgiveness ought to be cancelled immediately and i would make it clear we are staning with the government of israel and not allow nuclear capability in iran. >> the prime minister netanyahu made it known this weekend where he stands. liz, thank you. >> thank you. >> what many fear, it's the tip of the iceberg, if jihaddists lashed out over the youtube video, they probably won't like what the americans are working on now. also wisconsin, get ready. we suspect more trouble is coming your way. what is it? find out from governor scott walker. he will be here just minutes from now. americans are always ready to work hard for a better future.
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>> a fox news alert. mitt romney spoke moments ago in california. we just got video in from a news conference there. he's responding to criticism after calling 47% of americans free loaders at a previous
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campaign event. let's listen. >> a question and answer question at a fundraiser event. it doesn't capture the question so i don't know precisely what was asked but i think it was about my campaign and how i would get the majority of voters to support me. by the way, whoever has released this, i would certainly appreciate if they would release the whole tape so we could see all of it. i believe the point i made, the president starts out with a large number of the voters, 47, 48, 49%, something like that. these are people who are in his camp and they will vote for him almost no matter what, and i also have a large number of people who will vote for me almost no matter what, at least i hope so, and my focus is to focus on the people in the middle. the ones i want to have as parts of my campaign are people who voted for obama last time around. it's a question and answer, as i recall, about the process of the
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campaign and how i'm going to get the 51%, 352% i need and i point out it's by focusing on those folks who are neither in his camp nor in my approach. of course there's a different approach of the two different campaigns. as i point out i recognize that among those who pay no tax, approximately 47% of americans, i'm not going to be likely successful with the message of lowering taxes. it isn't as attractive to those who don't take taxes as those who do. and those reliant on government is not as attractive to my message of slimming down the government, and so i then focus on those sids who i believe are most likely to be pulled into my camp and help me win the 51% or the 51.1% i need to become the next president.
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invest have different approaches to what we need to ignite our economy and put people back to work. the president believes in what i described as a government-centered society, where government plays a larger and larger role, provides for more and more of the needs are individuals, and i happen to believin' stead in a free enterprise, free individual society where people pursuing their dreams are able to employ one another, build enterprises, build the strongest economy in the world. i happen to believe that my approach is the one that will put 23 million people back to work again. eve watched the results of the president's approach over the last three and a half years and his larger and larger government approach means we have 15 million more people on food stamps, 23 million people out of work or stopped looking for work or underemployed. we've had 43 straight months with unemployment above 8%. and my view is the right approach for our nation is not to adopt a government-centered
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approach, but instead a free, free people, free enterprise, free market, consumer-driven approach and that will build the strongest economy for ourselves and for the coming generations. yes. >> you said on the video people receiving government benefits or didn't pay taxes saw themselves as victims or weren't willing to tavonibility for their own lives and their own futures. do you have any response to that? what did you mean by that? >> you said a number of things there, and the -- the answer is i'm talking about the political process of drawing people into my campaign. of course individuals are going to take responsibility for their life and my campaign is about helping people take more responsibility and becoming employed again, particularly those who don't have work. this whole campaign is focused on getting people jobs again, putting people back to work. this is ultimately a question about direction for the country. do you believe in a
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government-centered society that provides mor and more benefits, or do you believe instead in a free enterprise society where people are able to pursue their dreams? i believe the latter will help more people get good jobs. this is a campaign fundamentally about how to help the middle class in america and how to bring people out of poverty into the middle class. and we've seen the results of the last three, four years and it has not worked. my approach will get 12 million new jobs and rise in take-home pay. >> you are not stepping away from anything you said in this video, are you? you are not pack backing away from anything? and you offended the 47% who you mentioned. >> well, you know, it's not eloquently stated, let me put it that way. i'm speaking off-the-cuff in response to a question and i'm sure i could state it more clearly and in a more effective way than i did in a setting like that. and so i'm sure i'll point that
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out as time goes on but we don't even have the question given the snippet there nor the whole response and i hope the person who has the video will put out the full material. but it's a message which i'm going to carry and continue to carry, which is, look, the president's approach is attractive to people who are not paying taxes because, frankly, my discussion about lowering taxes isn't as attractive to them and therefore i'm in the likely to draw them into my campaign as effective as those in the middle. this is really about the political process of winning the election. of course, i want to help all americans, all americans, have a bright and prosperous future and i'm convinced the president's approach has not done that and will not do that. >> governor, this is the second time you have made comments at a fund raiser to donors that are different than what you say on the trail in terms of policy or at least in this case in terms of tone. what assurances can you give the voters that you are not saying different things to people who fund your campaign than what you
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are saying to them in the public? >> you are coming to my fundraisers and this is the same message i give to people, we have a very different approach, the president and i, between a government-dominated society and a society driven by free people pursuing their dreams. i'm talking about the process of campaigns. typically i don't talk about process in speeches because i think candidates are wiser to talk about policy and their vision than to talk about how they are going to win an election. at a fundraiser you have people saying governor, how are you going to win that? so i respond the president has his group, i have my group, i want to keep my team strong and motivated and i want to get those people in the middle. that's something that fundraising pwilling their money interested in, knowing can you win or not, and that's what this was addressing. >> let's go to kaytee about this. before we goat to what we
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originally asked you to join us about, let me ask you about the press conference and i'm flying a little blind. i haven't seen the video about which governor romney is speaking. apparently he said among other thanks the obama supporters are dependent upon the government and he's called this quick press conference. your thoughts? >> look, most americans are not going to look at the statistics, 8% unemployment, 8.2%. they are going to look at their own families, do they have a job, does their spouse have a job, do their kids have a job? and if they don't, who is more likely to get them a job? i think it boils down to something as simple as that. >> i wonder how smart it is to hold a press conference. whatever it is, i'm sure it will be come out in the next 24 hours. but i'm sure it elevated to a graver concern when he holds an impromptu press conference. >> right now the united states
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and romney ought to be focused on the middle east right now. it's on a lot of people's minds. we've seen the entire region look like it's going up in smoke. the credibility of the american president questioned, and i do think that gov. romney ought to weigh in on that. he came in strong early on and then he's been silent about it and we are seeing country and country after country burning the american flag, taking an anti-american position, and where is the governor on that? i think he should speak out. >> that's a good seque as to why -- i heard you earlier today talking about whether the youtube video was the provocation for these protests. and you said something on the air, i don't mean to quote you, but you said something if you think that's provocative, wait until the osama bin laden movie comes out. tell me why you said that. >> if this administration is saying these riots, these assassinations have been
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spontaneous, and i don't know if anybody has watched it, but it's like a home video with a bunch of guys with glued-on beards and dish heads over their heads. 23 that is what is sparking this, just wait, because the bin laden in movie, which is coming out in december, which the obama administration cooperated with, is going to show american military people killing bin laden in. if that's not designed to whoop up the entire middle east region, i don't know what is. pakistan, the public opinion poll is saying 80, 85% of american people think america is public enemy number one. how are they going to feel when they see a movie come out in a few months that shows a pakistani raid on bin laden in in their own territory? >> the other twist that was supposed to come out in october is pushed past the election. i'm not sure why but i'm sure there's something to that. thank you. >> thank you. >> and breaking news, what do they think of the news conference?
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>> we are back with our panel. michael carly, washington bureau chief and rick klein at abc news.
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rick, the governor has just given a surprise press conference. >> it's a surprise to a lot of folks. >> to the networks especially. >> and everyone was scrambling. he feels like he has to get it out because the video has been out a couple hours and he feels he needs to clarify what he's saying at the fundraiser. it is a difficult thing to explain away. i think for a lot of folks tuning in right now, the folks that aren't part of that 47%. if they are independent and see this come out of his mouth, it's a hard thing to explain away. >> one of one of you two gentlel us what it's about. >> he was at a fundraiser earlier this year in florida and he was discussing who would vote for him and who wouldn't vote for him and he talked about 47% of the country does not pay federal income taxes. he said they want to be dependent on government, they want the government to provide for them and they aren't going to vote for me. they are going to vote for obama
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no matter what. >> is this worse than something obama said about clinging to guns and religion back in his 2009 campaign? >> it's probably hard to say what is worse and what isn't. the thing that cause as big problem, he seems to disparage these people. he said they see themselves as victims, they feel they are entitled. a lot of those people in the middle, those swing voters he's trying to vote, they may have friends and relatives who are democrats. he is insulting a large swath of the country. people may think it's overblown but the media has their teeth into this story and it will deprive him of another day or two where he wants to be on another message. >> this is an entire talking point amongst conservatives, talking about the 47% who do not pay federal income tax and with increased dependency on the federal government. the people on food stamps has gone up enormously.
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in bush and then more so in obama administration. and more than merited by the economic downturn. this is an entirely normal conversation. and with people who they $20,000, $30,000 to have dinner with him, its probably fine with him. the question is will it hurt him with that much larger of the people he's trying appeal to. >> there's a reason this gets said to the $30,000 a plate people and not the entire population. these aren't sentiments you want shared more widely. mitt romney needs to grow from his base right now. even if his base agrees with him entirely on this. he needs to get those independent voters who voted for obama once before. >> he made that in the primaries and hillary clinton used it against him. now in the last six or seven weeks of the campaign. >> he can't afford to waste many nor days of message.
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children out of school. nato announcing today they are scaling back operation was afghan soldiers and police. the decision coming after four u.s. soldiers were killed on sunday near a remote checkpoint in the southern part of that country. shooter was wearing an afghanistan police uniform. 50 troops have been killed by afghan soldiers wearing their uniforms. thanks for watching fox and see you soon. back to greta. wisconsin governor scott walker got himself in another fight. you remember the last one. union members storming the capitol and 14 senators fled the state and hid out in illinois. and then they were so furious they wound recall the governor. and he won. most thought the fight was over, but it isn't. the collective bargaining law is grabbing headlines again.
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a wisconsin judge must threw out part of the law, declaring it null and void. now what? let's ask hem. governor walker joins us. good evening, sir. >> good evening. good to be with you. >> nice to have you. it looks like you have another round. what are you going to do? the trial court judge tossed out your signature law? >> we feel confident, as this happened last year, a dane county circuit court judge took action and tried to throw out part of the law and ultimately the -- again in this case as well. and our distinguished attorney general is going to go ahead tomorrow to go ahead and try to get a stay. so in the meantime until the supreme court can actually hear the decision and make a decision, i should say, that this doesn't screw up things for the local governments, the school districts, towns, counties and others who would be devastated if this law were not to be in effect. >> i don't mean to be disrespectful tourt, sir, but yy have the most dysfunctional
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supreme court in the entire state with one trying to choke another and two sending out notes to the press to snitch on the others and fighting going back and forth. and i was curious, no matter what happens, whether you within or lose in the supreme court, i can't imagine the people in the state of wisconsin aren't going to have some sort of thought that it's a pretty weird situation? >> well, it is. i mean, a day after all is great in the world after the packers beat the bears, the next day we had this decision. i think for people, no matter what their politics in wisconsin, it was very -- we had they recall election and we had a bigger margin, more people voted than before and most people were happy to move on. a couple months passed and people were ready to move on and now you have this again in the courts. our hope is a stay will be granted. again if you are a school direct, a county government, local government, it would cause
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significant layoffs and that's not what people want. they are ready to move on and not only balancing the budget but saving taxpayer money and turning a budget deficit into a surplus. >> it's not easy to get a stay. you get a stay because a judge thinks he or she will be reverse on the court of appeals so you have to tell him he's probably not right when he just decided against you. know you are seek being a stay but in the event you do not, are you unforced to unravel contracts or what are you going to do? >> well, in the case of this decision, again, i'm not a lawyer but from what our attorney general and department of justice pointed out, it doesn't affect state employees. the people who are going to be hurt under this is local school districts, municipalities and counties. they are the ones that already have levies in place so they would have to have staff changes, which i think would be ultimately bad for kids in the
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schools and bad for the taxpayers who need services. it's be careful what you ask for, you might get it, and that's ultimately what might happen in this case. i'm confident, though, even the attorney for the unions said in the last day or so some pretty reasonable statements about understanding there will be an indeed process and want to give people time to work that out. i think in the end it's reasonable. i would hope they give it a chance to go forward because otherwise there will be a lot of local officials trying to figure out exactly what to do next. >> all right. 30 seconds left. how is the race in wisconsin? president obama or gov. romney? i know you are a friend of congressman paul ryan but i'm curious what it looks like. >> yeah, big friend of paul ryan. mitt romney has to make the case that his name doesn't just stand for republican, it stands for former. if he does that, it's neck and neck now and he can ultimately win. a lot can happen between now and election day. >> and one other, tommy
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thompson, former governor of the state of wisconsin, is he going to win his senate race or not? >> i think he will. he is well-known, well-liked, has a good record of reform and if people understand it's the difference between a extreme liberal from madison or one proven to put people back to work, tommy thompson wins. if he can level the playing field out, he will win. >> thank you. sir. good luck with the supreme court. it's pretty wild out there. >> thank you, greta. >> up next, we will bring back our political panel, so don't go away.
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>> this is a fox news alert. violence in afghanistan. a suicide bomber targeted a mini bus near the airport. they are reporting at least nine dead. will the violence have an impact on the november election? it certainly doesn't seem to stop. eats all over the world and won't stop. back with our panel. mike, is this violence, will it bleed over into the election? >> i think it's hard to say. unfortunately afghanistan specifically seems to be a nonissue in this election and much more dramatic than that, bombing, we don't know the details, was it on a base where they torched a bunch of fighter jets and did damage.
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the taliban is quite strong. it's not clear they accomplished their goals. but if you are asking about the unrest across the arab world, it's hard to say how it will play out. i'm sure the voters in the middle are trying to still making their minds. it doesn't make obama look like his foreign policy is particularly successful. but we talked about the poll before we did the segment, showing about mitt rim's comments on the attacks in benghazi and cairo were terrible. i think it's a wash. >> but it's moved beyond mitt romney's statements none attack. it's gone in part to the administration's hard-to-believe story that all this violence was sparked by the movie and the movie alone and now i think the issues are what really happened in benghazi. we still don't know exactly what happened. was it preplanned? and then the spread to the other countries. >> the longer this goes on, the
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more it becomes about the president's responsibility and the less it becomes about mitt romney's initial reaction to it. >> but his foreign policy has not been a predominant issue in a lot of these races and with the economy as sluggish as it is, you wouldn't think this would trump everything. >> world events have a way of disrupting elections at times and no one saw this becoming as a predominant issue in the campaign. >> obama had a lot of strong points on foreign policy, he had a pretty nice list of thing and pretty close with afghanistan but the arab spring was always that was something very unclear how it was going, whether it was a success for the u.s. and i think it's come back to bite him in a way that's turned foreign policy into more after neutral issue. >> thank you. he's king of the pool, but is ryan lochte cut out to be in hollywood? that's next. can actually ease arthritis sympto.
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